Disgraceful behaviour. A startling lack of empathy for women who lives are threatened by their pregnancy, particularly when our constitution says women in such circumstances have the right to an abortion. Incredibly disappointed.

What a completely backwards move.

Abortion involves the termination of a human life i.e. murder. That is an irrefutable truth no matter how inconvenient it may be for some people’s agenda.

Luckily ive never had to have a termination. I support termination for medical reasons and really think another womans womb is her own business.

I salute them for this, although the EU wont like it, no intelligent woman in this day and age needs to get pregnant if they dont want to, thats right it is not the dark ages, intelligent people have the means now not to get pregnant but alas they do and punish some one else for their own stupidity.

For it or against it …. dosent matter because the EU will makes the decision for us anyway. If not then there is dear old UK to do it for us. Typical FF trying to get votes yet again.

Stunning lack of empathy for women in the above quotes by the way.

I really don’t have much of a problem with people who waste their time praying to one or other imaginary friend. It would obviously be better all round for them to devote that time, energy and, of course, money, working on the problems that exist in this life, rather than worrying about some non-existent after-life but, so be it.

What I have a very serious problem with is when all that religious clap-trap affects my life. I believe that, so long as it causes me no physical or economic harm, people should, by and large, be allowed to with their lives and bodies what they wish.

I will now attempt to explain why Donegal Council did what it did. It will, I hope, also explain why we are still ruled not by our elected representatives, but from Vatican City.

The following are some Roman Catholic church rules:

Canon Law 22 states, “Civil laws to which the law of the Church yields are to be observed in canon law with the same effects, insofar as they are not contrary to divine law and unless canon law provides otherwise”. This is, of course, at the heart of the whole paedophilia scandal. That is to say that the “laws” made up by the men of the Roman Catholic church, along with those that are magically received – presumably through their funny hats – from their version of god, are, in their own parallel universe, somehow superior to any State’s legislation.

Canon Law 750.1 says, of Roman Catholics, “A person must believe with divine and Catholic faith all those things contained in the word of God, written or handed on, that is, in the one deposit of faith entrusted to the Church, and at the same time proposed as divinely revealed either by the solemn magisterium of the Church or by its ordinary and universal magisterium which is manifested by the common adherence of the Christian faithful under the leadership of the sacred magisterium; therefore all are bound to avoid any doctrines whatsoever contrary to them.”

The Catechism of the Catholic Church, at 1959, states,”The natural law, the Creator’s very good work, provides the solid foundation on which man can build the structure of moral rules to guide his choices. It also provides the indispensable moral foundation for building the human community. Finally, it provides the necessary basis for the civil law with which it is connected, whether by a reflection that draws conclusions from its principles, or by additions of a positive and juridical nature”.

Canon Law 223.1-2 states, “In exercising their rights, the Christian faithful, both as individuals and gathered together in associations, must take into account the common good of the Church, the rights of others, and their own duties toward others” and, “In view of the common good, ecclesiastical authority can direct the exercise of rights which are proper to the Christian faithful”.

Canon Law 915 states, “Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion”.

So, those are some of rules. But what of our good old Roman Catholic politicians, our legislators? Well, look no further than the ‘Doctrinal Note on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life’ written by, you guessed it, one Joey Ratzinger and published in November 2002. [http://www.doctrinafidei.va/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20021124_politica_en.html]

Key amongst the Roman Catholic drivel contained in this document are the following passages:

Following on from, “A kind of cultural relativism exists today, evident in the conceptualization and defence of an ethical pluralism, which sanctions the decadence and disintegration of reason and the principles of the natural moral law”, the document states, “Such relativism, of course, has nothing to do with the legitimate freedom of Catholic citizens to choose among the various political opinions that are compatible with faith and the natural moral law, and to select, according to their own criteria, what best corresponds to the needs of the common good”.

“…it must be noted also that a well-formed Christian conscience does not permit one to vote for a political program or an individual law which contradicts the fundamental contents of faith and morals”.

This last one is a bit long but it really brings out what the Roman Catholic church is ordering its members – including Irish politicians – to do.

By its interventions in this area, the Church’s Magisterium does not wish to exercise political power or eliminate the freedom of opinion of Catholics regarding contingent questions. Instead, it intends – as is its proper function – to instruct and illuminate the consciences of the faithful, particularly those involved in political life, so that their actions may always serve the integral promotion of the human person and the common good. The social doctrine of the Church is not an intrusion into the government of individual countries. It is a question of the lay Catholic’s duty to be morally coherent, found within one’s conscience, which is one and indivisible. «There cannot be two parallel lives in their existence: on the one hand, the so-called ‘spiritual life’, with its values and demands; and on the other, the so-called ‘secular’ life, that is, life in a family, at work, in social responsibilities, in the responsibilities of public life and in culture. The branch, engrafted to the vine which is Christ, bears its fruit in every sphere of existence and activity. In fact, every area of the lay faithful’s lives, as different as they are, enters into the plan of God, who desires that these very areas be the ‘places in time’ where the love of Christ is revealed and realized for both the glory of the Father and service of others. Every activity, every situation, every precise responsibility – as, for example, skill and solidarity in work, love and dedication in the family and the education of children, service to society and public life and the promotion of truth in the area of culture – are the occasions ordained by providence for a ‘continuous exercise of faith, hope and charity’ (Apostolicam actuositatem, 4)». Living and acting in conformity with one’s own conscience on questions of politics is not slavish acceptance of positions alien to politics or some kind of confessionalism, but rather the way in which Christians offer their concrete contribution so that, through political life, society will become more just and more consistent with the dignity of the human person. 

In summary, it is crystal clear that the Roman Catholic church is ordering its members, who are politicians – legislators – to vote only in accordance with the church’s teachings. They are also required to act in the church’s interests and, of course, if they disobey, they can look forward to excommunication and being barred from holy communion. Now, that last bit isn’t going to bother too many non-Catholics, especially atheists, but Paddy the TD from Ballygobackwards in Donegal is certainly not gong to risk eternal damnation and, even worse, a fall in No. 1s in the next election, by voting in favour of legislation that supports anything that the Vatican doesn’t want him to, irrespective of the wishes of the people.

Brilliant!!! I am so proud that they have decided to maintain their morality! Hopefully it stays that way- babies are not “choices”.

No one knows another persons reasons or circumstances for their actions. For every one who has posted a comment here I’ll quote from a song” Walk a mile in my shoes”. Then offer an opinion.