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Friday 24 May 2013
HOUSEHOLD TAX: ‘DONEGAL WORST HIT IN CUTS AND COULD GO BANKRUPT’
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Dublin are quite happy to have Donegal cut off, they also don’t give a damn about the people of Donegal or come to that elsewhere. As long as they get their over inflated pay and expenses.
It’s nice to think, that come the next election, this government will be totally annihilated, a bit like F.F. and The Greens were last time around.
Not so nice to think, where on earth are we going to get a government that represents the people of Ireland, and not the dictates of Europe?
No Banks in Donegal = This stupid household Tax Scam will never ever need to be mentioned ever again thankfully !!
It also leaves the post office a very easy target now to rob since we dont anymore have any active Guardai on patrol its simply a matter of time now im actually well surprised its not been tried already .
Fine Gael really are completley stupid much more stupid than we even give them credit for , lol’s !
Has Joe McHugh or Dinny McGinley commented on the situation as of yet?? Should be interesting….
If we voted for the Lisbon treaty twice….can we vote on partition again please.
The unite Ulster campaign—-we’d be better off. Easy to see that dublin don’t care one bit for us up here. Big Phils bully tactics will backfire big time in this county.
yeah phil punish people who cant afford ur charges that’s just great the sooner we get this government out the better.
I’m in a ghost estate so I’m therefore exempt from the household tax. How can they cut budget for services for people like me based on the fact that others have not paid? Why do I suffer just because I live in the area. Is this legal to penalise counties based on some peoples non payment rather than population?
lol!! instead of fixing the reason the household charges are not being paid-ie rotten roads no rail or luas system here, poor water supply, high unemployment etc etc they decide to make a bad situation worse. Not a good idea mr hogan there’s only a certain amount of bad government policies donegal people will put up with and that limit can’t be far away.
I wonder how many foreign trips hogan will be able to get with that money in his pocket. 140,000 euro he spent going to rio de janeiro and the earth20 conferencelahis backst month!! Is he payng this back? Somehow I wouldn’t say so. Whoever voted in these monkeys should be ashamed. Roll on election day.
The people who did not pay the household charge were told that this would happpen so they can’t say they weren’t warned.
Minister Phil Hogan also has not ruled out alternatives to getting the tax that was not gained from non payment of the household charge, that is to put more taxation on work and working people, including some people who have already paid the charge and do not want to pay any more tax.
Sinn Féin told the people of Donegal not to pay the household charge as did the “Can’t Pay Won’t Pay” group and both knew that these cuts would be forthcoming if people did not pay the tax so theres no point them now complaining about it when they already knew this would happen.
As the old saying goes “Don’t say i didn’t tell you so”
And there ends a political party broadcast on behalf of the government!!
@Tomas
The truth hurts doesn’t it!
Well Mick, how would you know??
How many millions does the Council have and what is it all spent on? I read somewhere that a third less staff are employed now by the Council, so surely they dont need as much money.
This is just more propoganda by the government,this was on the cards for Donegal anyway and now they say its because people dident pay the household charge,what nonsense also saying they need x amount of electricity to go to Britan etc more lies as they have sufficiant already, this is a way to plough ahead with more windfarms so they can fill the pockets of the well off again,when will people realize whats going on,sadly when its to late for Donegal i fear.
What do we really expect? If we don’t pay the household charge, that is supposed to fund local councils, is it really a surprise that the council will not have as much funding??? But of course it is a grand conspiracy against poor Donegal once again. This whole county needs to grow up.
You really think that money would have been spent in Donegal?? That’s like saying all the road tax money collected in Donegal gets spent on Donegal infrastructure!!!
Here something new! Why doesn’t the people pay their taxes the same as the rest of us. Then there would be no funding crisis. Just an idea!
@ pingback;”How could the leading county in wind power become such an environmental and economic wasteland?”
Interesting thread that fully sums up whats going on at the moment with this country’s government.
@ciarán & Jane; maybe a lot of people can’t pay simply because they are already on the breadline as per the thread linked in these replies. Good for you if you can pay whatever the government decides you pay cos not everyone can.
Maybe because some couties are sick of funding Dublin???
@ mick sinn fein did not tell people not to pay their household charge,please check your facts..ciaran and jane should take their head out of the sand ……
@ ciaran
I do check my facts but i guess you do not.
Sinn Féin told people and i quote “The policy with Sinn Féin is not to say directly to people ‘don’t pay it’, but what we’re basically saying is it’s up to the individual.”
I can post a link to this quote if you like that came from a Sinn Féin TD.
Typical Mick — if you dont agree with the government, ye must be a shinner.
I thought you boys were off for the summer.
@ Mark
Your buddys from Sinn Féin aren’t off for the summer whenever they are releasing statements.
I knew it was only a matter of time until you replyed to one of my comments. I can always depend on you to reply to one of my comments as you don’t like me saying ANYTHING about your buddys in Sinn Féin.
I might start a fan club, you along with Hunter, the two Sinn Féin representatives for Donegal as you two always give me a wee mention whenever i say anythng bad about your political party.
The Shinners, et al are at it again! Blame everybody else! Don’t pay any taxes, then have the usual rant and whinge when services are cut. Let somebody else pay e.g. the careful, parsimonious and hard working Germans etc. Oh dear, so many Irish people are very easily fooled.
@JimB
Not fooled Jim …. just waking up.
@ Mark (Micks fan club)
If you weren’t sleeping you would have known this was going to happen.
Try and stay awake next time.
Get this government out – the sooner the better. That will solve all our problems alright. Who are you going to replace them with – the cant pay/wont pay crowd. The crowd who are the voice for the people out there who never worked a day in their lives and never intend to do so either – who live off the state & the social welfare and are laughing at the middle income earners or maybe Sinn Fein who’s only policy is to tax the high earners. That will work a treat and is a great alternative alright.
Interesting….is that the same Phil that couldn’t face the peoples annoyance at McGill summer school in Glenties last week? And scurried in the back door like a scalded rat? Is this is the mettle of the politicians we elect then god help us; is it any wonder that the country is on the brink of ruination. The likes of Phil with his Labour cohorts and their strange blueshirt bedfellows were fond enough of heaping scorn on the then guardians of the present debacle but has anything improved since they brought their collective wisdom to the cabinet table?
I can’t but shake my weary head in dismay at the reality of the spin alluded to above – DCC will be go out & out to entice more windy types to the county with their turbines and the promise of quick riches. At the ruination of our wonderful landscape and the death knell for any proper, sustained tourism development.
€4m cut? Sure what is it altogether? Hardly a hill of beans. Did not these pages some months ago run a headline story on how the top ten officals in the Council earn over €100,000 each and their boss something in the order of €140,000? And didn’t predecessors spend more than €3.4m in consultant fees (over a couple of years)to decide on how to best manage the Lifford circus and it’s outlying stations. Ah, sure there’s a great stage play in it. I’m starting to write it; all royalties going to DCC. Forget the household tax when the royalties roll in! Maybe Shakepeare provides some of the answers; may I paraphrase:
“All Donegal is a stage,
And all ye men and women merely players”
and As You Like It provides a cameo for Big Phil in the closing couplets of that great monologue for it appears to me that the great rotweiler of the opposition has suddenly found that:
“For his shrunk shank;
and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble,
pipes and whistles in his sound….”
Now I wonder is this gonna be a comedy or a tragedy? Answers on a postage stamp please……
How can anyone defend a government who threatens its own people thats just a step to far. And would u not know that muppet mick would be at it.
@ Hunter
The same can be said about your buddys in Sinn Féin who are always releasing statements.
Everybody knew that Sinn Féin were going to release a statement about this.
It must feel bad to support a party that can only release statement after statement but doesn’t actually do anything constructive.
After all it was them who said told people to boycott the household charge and now they are complaining about cuts to local Council’s.
@Hunter
Caustic Mick’s response to any critisism of FG is that ye must be a shinner. Its a Harte tactic — dont talk about the issue, just attack somebody else.
Mick writes as if he is in the majority, but the actual figures show that he is most definately in the minority. Donegal is waking up to how we are being ruled and we are not liking it one bit.
Here’s a quote from the new Batman movie –
“There’s a storm coming Mr. Wayne(Mick). You and your friends better batten down the hatches. ‘Cause when it hits, you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large, and leave so little for the rest of us.”
@ Mark (Micks fan club)
I get a wee mention again, oh aren’t i the popular one.
I already told you time and time again that Donegal can jump up and down all they like but the people of Ireland had their say last year in the general election.
So long as the people of Donegal protest and throw eggs at people this is how they will be treated.
Act like a child and be treated like a child.
What have your buddys in Sinn Féin done besides release statement after statement?
I would really you to tell me as you think you seem to know so much about them.
As for the quote, a movie is just that Mark, a movie, welcome back to reality.
Easy for you to pontificate on yer big fat public pension……you dont starve
@ Mark (Micks fan club)
I don’t have a public pension as i have told you many times before i am not a public sector worker. I have a normal 9 to 5 job that has nothing to do with the government or public sector.
Sinn Féin won’t starve on the money they are getting.
You still never answered my question.
What have your buddys in Sinn Féin done besides release statement after statement since being elected?
We pay income tax and USC, the household tax is a farce, i own a home but dont have any services provided, while others that are renting may live in an area where they can avail of many services, whats fair about that. If the money was going to actually pay for council services that would be one thing but where is all the money in the country going…3 .6b last month to unsecured, and even unguaranteed bondholders,Next Wednesday €500 million will be paid to bond holders. 7 payments will be made in Aug/ Sept. On October 1st €1 billion will be paid to UNSECURED bond holders in AIB. the very same ones are on the list of those who have trillions stashed away…. emmm
what if the people who didnt pay their household tax give the council a we donation of 100euro that way we have payed but havnt signed our lives away n the money would stay in donegal not go to the Fat Cats in dublin?we would be doing our bit for Our county. just a though!!!
While ostracized by Leinster House & not recognised by certain sectarian quarters & seasoned bigots within stormont, it is quite apparent that Ná Léinte Gorma’s west-brit/tory strageties & policies have failed miserably. Tír amháin, rialtás amháin, agus go háraithe, teanga amháin. Tír Chonaill abú!
This thing is a joke and anyone who dosent see through it is a fool,withdrawing money from a council, who they are paying extraordinary amounts too. so they will go along withever plan fits the moment like the plan to cover Donegal with windfarms that no one wants except windfarms agents,and the government,I think our council get enough money from the people even though our roads are a disgrace,also what services exactly will we loose the right to a healthy peacefull life mabye,not if our government and local council get their way,its a total farce,trying to frighten poor people into paying what they dont have,and the sad thing is that we would still lose this money even if all paid as we lost health services and everything else,wake up and realise what fools they are making of everyone.
@Michael
Thats the way it is.
If the people who did not paid did pay then it would not affect those that did pay as everyone would have them paid the tax.
The actions of a few are felt by all.
They were warned this would happen but of course choose to ignore the warnings and are now jumping up and down about it which won’t make one bit of difference.
They will be in for a shock come the December budget.